{"id":13009,"date":"2014-10-17T14:26:26","date_gmt":"2014-10-17T03:26:26","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.horsemagazine.com\/thm\/?p=13009"},"modified":"2019-09-19T14:50:36","modified_gmt":"2019-09-19T04:50:36","slug":"sir-donnerhall-i","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.horsemagazine.com\/thm\/2014\/10\/sir-donnerhall-i\/","title":{"rendered":"Sir Donnerhall I"},"content":{"rendered":"

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2001 171 cm Dark Bay<\/strong><\/p>\n

Breeder: Maik Kanitzky<\/strong><\/p>\n

By Sandro Hit, Sir Donnerhall is interestingly bred on his dam line. His dam sire, Donnerhall, needs absolutely no introduction, and he has been without doubt the most successful \u2018stallion maker\u2019 of the founding big three of dressage: Donnerhall, Weltmeyer and Rubinstein, although Florestan is currently quietly upstaging the trio.<\/p>\n

Sir Donnerhall\u2019s dam, Contenance D is out of the Holsteiner mare, Contenance II, whose sire, Feldherr combines two of the famous old style Holsteiners, Farnese and Moltke I, her dam, Contenance is by the Thoroughbred, Grundyman and her dam, Vorr is by another Holsteiner, Ratibor (conventional enough: Raimond, Consul, Ladykiller, Fahnrich) it is the next line that starts to get exotic, with lots of \u00e5\u2019s and \u00f8\u2019s, indicating that we have moved even further north to Denmark, and one of the original Danish breeds, the Fredriksborg, a breed of chestnut carriage horses.<\/p>\n

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The Frediksborg horse..<\/em><\/p>\n

Contenance D received her States Premium award at Oldenburg\u2019s most prestigious mare show, Rastede, before she arrived at PSI by a somewhat circular route. According to Ulf M\u00f6ller, then the manager of the PSI dressage barn and the rider who partnered Sir Donnerhall throughout his career, it was a deal within a deal. A partnership between a businessman and Paul Schockem\u00f6hle\u2019s Jumping Barn manager, was coming to the end: \u201cThey did some horse dealing together and then they couldn\u2019t agree about how to finish the deal and then in the end they agreed that Mr Schockem\u00f6hle would get an unborn foal out of one of his mares. So they finished the deal and this was Sir Donnerhall.\u201d<\/p>\n

\u201cSo he grew up in Lewitz (Schockem\u00f6hle\u2019s horse raising farm in the Eastern part of Germany)<\/em> like normal, everyone expected that he would be the winner of the licensing. At that time an Englishman, Mr Pidgley wanted to buy a stallion from Mr Schockem\u00f6hle, but because they expected Sir Donnerhall would be the winner of the licensing, they didn\u2019t sell Sir Donnerhall so they sold Don Kennedy to the Pidgley family. Then what happened is that Don Kennedy won the licensing and Sir Donnerhall was third.\u201d<\/p>\n

\u201cI started riding him as a four-year-old, he won the Oldenburg Championships and qualified for the Bundeschampionate, the German Young Horse Championships in Warendorf, but for him to be accepted by the Hanoverians, without doing 70-day test, he had to be placed 1, 2 or 3. Mr Schockem\u00f6hle asked me, can you guarantee that he will be 1, 2 or 3? And I said, hey, I cannot guarantee with a stallion, as a four-year-old, in this ring, I cannot give you the guarantee. So we didn\u2019t go to the Young Horse Championship and he did his 70-day test and he was at this time the highest score ever, so he was accepted by the Hanoverian breeding society.\u201d<\/p>\n

\u201cThen I got him back for the five-year-old Young Horse World Championships. He won his qualifier and then he went to Verden and unfortunately we all know what happened in Verden\u2026 so I was second.\u201d<\/p>\n

(What happened was that after winning the first round, Sir Donnerhall was very disobedient in the canter work in the second round, but still managed to finish in second place thanks in large part to a 9.5 for general impression, a mark that provoked a noisy and antagonistic reaction from the spectators \u2013 like his father, this is a horse that attracts strong polarizing opinions.)<\/em><\/p>\n

Ulf is not one to give up:<\/p>\n

\u201cTo repair this I really trained for the Bundeschampionate and he won the five year old dressage title, so in the end it was a good success.\u201d<\/p>\n

From then on, the stallion has only been ridden in stallion shows, although Ulf says he is handling the Prix St Georges work: \u201cNow he\u2019s doing a good Prix St Georges, but we only get him to ride three\/four weeks of the year to prepare him for the stallion shows\u2026\u201d<\/p>\n

What do you see as Sir Donnerhall\u2019s qualities?<\/em><\/p>\n

\u201cAs you know, I rode a lot of Sandro Hit offspring and there are some really good ones. You see now some of his offspring winning the Grand Prix but there was always a little bit the concern that some offspring from Sandro Hit do not have enough energy. I think Sir Donnerhall is really the one with the perfect mix of being nice, of being rideable, of having a good brain, but also of being fresh enough, forward enough and smart enough and trainable enough. I think that\u2019s the things that get more and more important, not only the gaits, but also the willingness, the trainability, the right brain. I think he\u2019s the perfect example of this.\u201d<\/p>\n

Are there any particular mares that you think he\u2019s been working better with?<\/em><\/p>\n

\u201cWhat is well known is that Weltmeyer mares fit very good.\u201d<\/p>\n

Because they\u2019re good behind? <\/em><\/p>\n

\u201cYes, they have good hind legs. Weltmeyer himself has a, let\u2019s say a \u2018forward-pushing hind leg\u2019 and not such a \u2018carrying\u2019 hind leg but Weltmeyer on the mother line is a very positive thing. I think also Londonderry is a very good mix; we just had a very beautiful mare from Sir Donnerhall\/Londonderry.\u201d<\/p>\n

\u201cI think it is a good thing if the stallion survives the first years, if they get old enough then you really find out the right fit. I think this is the advantage with older stallions like Sir Donnerhall, like Sandro Hit, like Don Frederico. All these stallions, which are still en vogue<\/em> in an older age, you, the breeder, can know what is the perfect mix.\u201d<\/p>\n

\u201cI cannot say in particular which mares fit. Most breeders look at the stallion and think they will get a copy of the stallion \u2013 they have to look at the mares, and they have to look at the weak point of their mares and where the weak point is in the stallion, because every stallion has a weak point – so that maybe you don\u2019t mix two weak points together. If you have a horse with little bit of a slow hind leg you need a stallion with a very active hind leg. So this is what people need to think about.\u201d<\/p>\n

Sir Donnerhall is a little bit slow behind?<\/em><\/p>\n

\u201cOkay he is a little bit, he\u2019s built a little bit like this. His croup is a little bit flat, we all know this, but because he\u2019s so rideable you can activate the hind leg, he takes it, and that\u2019s the good thing, and it gets even better with the age, with the right muscles… Okay, from his construction it\u2019s a little bit flat, but let\u2019s say one of 100 foals have it, most of them have a very nice hind leg, and a very nice construction from the croup. This is what I mean, if you have a mare with a flat croup, you would not use this stallion because then you mix two negative things together, then you cannot hope that it gets better. That\u2019s how it should work.\u201d<\/p>\n

But he\u2019s not going to compete in Prix St Georges? He\u2019s just going to do the stallion shows?<\/em><\/p>\n

\u201cYes, but I think you could bring him tomorrow to Prix St Georges and he could win it. The nice thing with Sir Donnerhall, is that he has this special presence. He\u2019s never standing there with the neck down, always with the neck up and proud. You cannot pass him without noticing him, he has unbelievable presence, and this is also what he has under saddle, he\u2019s always \u2018there\u2019 and that\u2019s what makes him a really good horse in my opinion.\u201d<\/p>\n

Sir Donnerhall\u2019s competition career comprised four wins, one second, and one fourth at preliminary level for total earnings of \u20ac1,960. His 802\u00a0competition progeny, according to that splendid publication, the Hanoverian Stallion Year Book 2015, have won \u20ac291,848\u00a0between them, with 41 making it to Advanced level dressage, but \u00a0with just one with earnings of over \u20ac10,000 – Sacre Coeur with \u20ac13,924.<\/p>\n

He has 11 licensed sons.<\/p>\n

On the 2014 German FN dressage stallion breeding values, Sir Donnerhall has \u00a0a score of 154 which puts him in 15th place on the list of stallions with a reliability of between 90 and 99%. On the 2013 list, his full brother, Sir Donnerhall II wass ranked more highly than he\u00a0with a dressage value of 160, but on the 2014 standings, Sir Donnerhall II’s breeding value is 149. Sir Donnerhall II caused some heartburn in Hanover, when he was acquired by the state stud at Celle and bred a decent book of mares, before he was rejected by the Hanoverian licensing committee in early 2010, which left the resulting foals in limbo. Sir Donnerhall II went to Sweden, and then returned to win a bronze medal at the 2012 World Young Horse Championships in Verden, the home of the Hanoverian\u2026<\/p>\n

Sir Donnerhall II \u00a0won a World Cup Qualifier in April 2017 with Morgan Barban\u00e7on at Mariakalnok in Hungary and since then the pair have been serious competitors on the World Cup circuit.<\/p>\n

In the 2016 Hanoverian stallion book, Sir Donnerhall I’s personal tally stands at \u20ac1,960, with four wins at L klasse. His progeny in the sport number 921, with winnings of \u20ac411,152. Two of his progeny have won more than \u20ac10,000: Sacre Coeur (\u20ac15,952) and Sammy Deluxe (\u20ac12,952). He has an FN breeding value of 152, 93 for jumping. His Hanoverian dressage value is 144 and 89 for jumping. He scores highly for canter, 168, and trot, 150, with a negative 93 for walk, and 145 for rideability. He scores 144 for type.<\/p>\n

By the time the 2017 Hanoverian book had been published, the number of competitors had risen to 1001 with winnings of \u20ac523,777. Three progeny have earned over \u20ac10,000 – Sacre Coeur (\u20ac17,833), Sammy Deluxe (\u20ac13,601) and Starbucks 2 (\u20ac13,883). His Hanoverian breeding value is 142 (fifth on the topliste) with a jumping value of 88. For type he scores 145 which puts him in equal 5th on the topliste.<\/p>\n

He scores a massive 165 for his canter, a 150 for trot and a miserable 94 for walk – his rideability has a breeding value of 143.<\/p>\n

The 2018 Hanoverian book records 1096 competitors with winnings of \u20ac689,128, 141 have competed at S level of better. Sir Donnerhall is the sire of four dressage horses with winnings of more than \u20ac10,000, the most successful being Sacre Coeur with \u20ac18,272.<\/p>\n

His Hanoverian breeding value for dressage is 141, jumping – 88. His canter is his best gait – 164, followed by 150 for trot, but a negative 94 for walk.<\/p>\n

He scores 146 for type and 134 for limbs, with a correctness value of 156.<\/p>\n

On the 2017 FN values, he scores 149 as a young horse sire, and 134 for open competition.<\/p>\n

As we swing into 2018 I am starting to get the feeling that Sir Donnerhall may prove a more successful sire of Grand Prix horses than his dad. The Sir Donnerhalls keep popping up all over, like Ashley Holzer’s Sir Caramello who won the\u00a0FEI Grand Prix Special CDIW, presented by Peacock Ridge in Wellington in March 2018 with a score of 70.149.<\/p>\n

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The 2019 Hanoverian Stallion book, records 1161 competitors with winnings of \u20ac821,593, with 174 competing at S level dressage. He has five progeny that have won more than \u20ac10,000: Sacre Coeur (\u20ac18,722), Sai Baba Plus (\u20ac16,706), Sammy Deluxe (\u20ac15,328), Sierra (\u20ac12,637) and Starbucks (\u20ac18,259).<\/p>\n

Sacre Coeur (Pik Bube II) competed at Grand Prix level with Sasha Schulz, although no results have been recorded since 2016. Then, their best result was a win at Intermediaire II at Achleiten in 2015.<\/p>\n

His Hanoverian dressage value is 141, with 161 for canter, 150 for trot, 141 for rideability, and yes, that Sandro walk again, 94 for walk. He scores 146 for type and 134 for his limbs. Sir Donnerall’s 2019 FN value for young dressage horse classes is 148, for open competition, 135.<\/p>\n

As of September 2019, Horsetelex records 1487 progeny on its data base, with 32 Grand Prix performers.On the rankings as of September 2019, the highest ranked Sir Donnerhall I was Ashley Holzer’s small tour winner, Valentine (Ragazzo) who comes in at number 113. On the same set of rankings, Sir Donnerhall II is at 32nd.<\/p>\n

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