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1986 \u20132011 166 cm Chestnut<\/strong><\/p>\n

Breeder: Robert Diestel<\/strong><\/p>\n

At the age of 20, For Pleasure was farewelled at a moving ceremony held at the 2006 Aachen CHIO. The chestnut stallion injured a tendon the previous year and although it healed well, it was decided that For Pleasure should now devote his energies full time to his breeding career.<\/p>\n

For Pleasure came 15th in his performance test at Medingen in 1989, coming 46th (out of 68) in the dressage with a score of 91.91 but starring in the jumping where he had the top mark of 145.95.<\/p>\n

He was taken through young horse classes and into advanced by Hans-Joachim Giebel \u2013 together they took out the State Championship for Lower Saxony in 1994.<\/p>\n

The following year, Lars Nieberg took over, and they were on their way to international fame and fortune\u2026<\/p>\n

For Pleasure finished his career with staggering lifetime earnings of \u20ac1.8 million – behind ET (competing for Austria despite his German birth) with over \u20ac3 million, but in front of British legend, Milton who won \u20ac1.6 million and over thirty cars!<\/p>\n

For Pleasure contributed to four championship victories in eight years with the German Showjumping team, and four times won team gold: at the 1996 Games with Lars Nieberg, at the 2000 Games with Marcus Ehning and at two European Championships – Hickstead and Donaueschingen.<\/p>\n

At Donaueschingen, he carried Marcus Ehning to his first individual medal – a bronze.<\/p>\n

With both riders, he won 75 S-level classes, winning his last Grand Prix at the age of eighteen, at the Leipzig round of the World Cup, where he won the class over a massive course (“the highest track I have ever jumped with him indoors,” said rider, Marcus Ehning) to beat Frenchman, Jean Marc Nicolas and Modesto.<\/p>\n

For Pleasure has the rare distinction of having competed at Grand Prix level against two of his progeny – the stallion, For Keeps and the mare, Farina – in the Grand Prix at Wiesbaden 2005.<\/p>\n

\"Dam<\/a><\/p>\n

\u00a0Dam sire, Goya, in action with Hartwig Steenken<\/em><\/p>\n

For Pleasure is by Furioso II, out of Gigantin by Grannus out of a mare by Goya \u2013 she carries that \u2018G\u2019 blood that is so loved in Hanover: Grande, Grannus and Gotthard. Gigantin\u2019s first foal, the stallion Winterstar (by Wittenberg) was sold to South Africa where he became a popular sire. Her breeder, Robert Diestel then bred her to a series of stallions: Acord II, Caletto I, Quidam de Revel and Sandro, breeding the fillies from this cross back to For Pleasure (who says they only breed tight in Holstein?) \u2013 this cross produced the private stallions Fly High and For Life\u2019s Memory. For Pleasure\u2019s half brother, Champagner (by Caletto I) was a successful competitor with Thomas Brandt.<\/p>\n

Robert Diestel established another mare line at his stud, based on the mare, Gabi (by Grundstein II), a half-sister to For Pleasure\u2019s grand-dam, Goldi. Johannes Ehning\u2019s international competitor, Carmen is out of Gabi, when bred to For Pleasure, she produced For Fun, who was ridden by Markus Ehning. The private stallions, For Play and For Kids Only, are inbred to their own dam line.<\/p>\n

\"For<\/a>For Fun, competing in the World Cup in Kuala Lumpur with Markus Ehning<\/em><\/p>\n

Fly High, who is out of Loraine (by Landadel out of Gigantin) was ranked second on the Stallion Jumping rankings in the 2008 Hanoverian stallion book, largely one assumes on the basis of the concentration on his papers of very famous ancestors \u2013 it can\u2019t be on the basis of his progeny, since at that stage they were too young to have done anything and his lifetime earnings were less than \u20ac10,000. The comment in the Hanoverian Stallion book is a master of under-statement: \u201cHis pedigree achieves a certain kind of security for the production of showjumping horses.\u201d<\/p>\n

\"Forsyth<\/a><\/p>\n

Forsyth FRH – like his sire, a winning jumper\u00a0<\/em><\/p>\n

In the 2021 Hanoverian book, Fly High\u2019s assessment is more realistic. His personal lifetime earnings were \u20ac18,236, and he has 81 competitors with winnings of \u20ac261,568 \u2013 largely thanks to two individuals, Flying Boy (\u20ac129,284) and Flashlight (\u20ac34,234) \u2013 they are the only two progeny to earn more than \u20ac15,000.\u00a0He was 7th on the 2019 topliste, equal with his half-brother, Forsyth but by 2021 he has disappeared while Forsyth has risen to fourth place.<\/p>\n

As at 2021, For Pleasure is the sire of twenty seven licensed stallion sons, Forsyth is the best of them, with 137 competitors with winnings of \u20ac790,304. He is the sire of six horses that have won over \u20ac15,000 including Fine Lady (\u20ac229,295).<\/p>\n

\"Earning<\/a><\/p>\n

\u00a0Earning money for Rene Tebbel – Farina, out of a Jet Stream mare<\/em><\/p>\n

In the 2021 Hanoverian Stallion Book, For Pleasure is recorded as having 468 competitors with 169 jumpers competing at Advanced level, with nine competing 5*. Together they have won \u20ac4,761,492! He is the sire of 45 horses who have won more than \u20ac15,000 with the highest money winner being Funky Fred (549,123) followed by\u00a0Epleaser van’t Heike (499,255), Fit for Fun (497,974), Farina (262,806), \u00a0Firth of Lorne (243,251) Firth of Clyde (227,659), \u00a0Forsyth FRH (119,779, For Fun (111,490) and For Success (100,346) . Ten of his progeny have won more that 100K.<\/p>\n

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\u00a0Epleaser van’t Heike (out of a Nabab de R\u00eave mare),
\nand Christian Ahlmann<\/em><\/p>\n

On the 2016 WBFSH stallion rankings, For Pleasure was in 3rd place with a staggering 75 competitors, four of which amassed over 1000 competition points in the season: Hello Forever (1325), Flora de Mariposa (1265), Fit for Fun (1170) and Barron (1030).<\/p>\n

The 2017 WBFSH standings had For Pleasure in 3rd place with his best representative, Hello Forever out of a Nimmerdor mare. On the 2018 standings, he has slipped to 11th with most points coming from Fit for Fun, and 48 international jumpers contributing to his total.<\/p>\n

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Hello Forever and Scott Brash<\/em><\/p>\n

On the new 2021 German FN breeding values, he has a young jumping horse value of 129 and highest level in competition value of 159. His Hanoverian values are 150 for jumping and 83 for dressage.<\/p>\n

For Pleasure retired as one of the great competitors – and despite the scepticism of many at the beginning of his breeding career, he proved himself to be an exceptional sire of jumpers.<\/p>\n

Ludwig Christmann, the head of the Hanoverian Verband’s international affairs department, makes the point that the For Pleasures can develop late:<\/p>\n

“Look at Fine Lady (by the For Pleasure son, Forsyth FRH)<\/em> when Eric Lamaze bought her, even though she was winning in 1.50m classes, no one thought she would be an Olympic horse. Even at that level, you can still be surprised by a horse. Maybe she is not jumping with a perfect style, she always jumps that much higher than she needs to, no matter if the poles are at 1.20m, or 1.60m. What I am saying is that the horse has to have a winner’s mentality.”<\/p>\n

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Fine Lady<\/em><\/p>\n

That has been a gold mine for Hanover, the blood of For Pleasure…<\/em><\/p>\n

“It’s amazing, but it is also an example of exactly what I am saying, as five-year-olds you can see their talent, but they develop as the fences get higher. For Pleasure himself had his own jumping style and he passed that jumping style on to his offspring but he also passed on the soundness and the hardiness and the reliability.”<\/p>\n

Did you expect that For Pleasure would become such a valuable sire?<\/em><\/p>\n

“When the first For Pleasures were five and six, they were not the sort of horses that would go to the Bundeschampionate. They were not highly rated at the time, but I am very happy that For Pleasure has proven that it is never too late for a stallion to come back.”<\/p>\n

For Pleasure is also the return of Furioso II, and yet for a while it looked as if his ‘F’ line had disappeared…<\/em><\/p>\n

“I would not say disappeared, at the moment I would say the Furioso line is the most influential line in modern sporthorse breeding. In dressage, we see what evolves from this line. In jumping, Kannan is a son of the Hanoverian Voltaire by Furioso, Ferro, Jazz, Florestan – all coming from this line. It is amazing this line became so successful.”<\/p>\n

For Pleasure was the most represented stallion on the Rio preliminary nominations list, with nine of his progeny – and with three of his stallion sons, For Keeps (Graphit), For Feeling (Monaco) and Forsyth (Dorian) each with one rep.<\/p>\n

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\u00a0For Pleasure was well represented at the WEG in Normandy with three competitors including Barron (out of a Nabab de R\u00eave mare) with Lucy Davis, the other two were Flora de Mariposa and Quilebro du Tillard.<\/em><\/p>\n

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Flora de Mariposa and Penelope LeProvost at 2014 WEG<\/em><\/p>\n

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Still the For Pleasures keep coming – Scott Brash and \u00a0Forever, now Hello Forever, takes out the first American Invitational on Miami beach.
\n<\/em>The chestnut\u00a0is by For Pleasure out of a Nimmerdor \/ Ramiro mare.<\/em><\/p>\n

(Photo: Stefano Grasso\/LGCT)<\/em><\/p>\n