{"id":58691,"date":"2021-05-10T15:52:13","date_gmt":"2021-05-10T05:52:13","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.horsemagazine.com\/thm\/?p=58691"},"modified":"2021-05-13T13:59:29","modified_gmt":"2021-05-13T03:59:29","slug":"how-does-the-kwpn-dressage-horse-compare-to-the-german-horses","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.horsemagazine.com\/thm\/2021\/05\/how-does-the-kwpn-dressage-horse-compare-to-the-german-horses\/","title":{"rendered":"How does the KWPN dressage horse compare to the German horses?\u00a0"},"content":{"rendered":"<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-19462\" src=\"https:\/\/www.horsemagazine.com\/thm\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/12\/Ludwig-Christmann.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"350\" height=\"443\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.horsemagazine.com\/thm\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/12\/Ludwig-Christmann.jpg 350w, https:\/\/www.horsemagazine.com\/thm\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/12\/Ludwig-Christmann-237x300.jpg 237w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 350px) 100vw, 350px\" \/><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\">by Ludwig Christmann<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\">(this article originally appeared in the April 2020 edition of <em>Der Hannoveraner<\/em><br \/>\nand is re-produced with permission)<\/p>\n<p><strong>There is a lot of interest in Dutch genetics, especially with respect to dressage horses. So there are good reasons to take a closer look at KWPN\u00a0 dressage horse breeding.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>What is the origin of the breed?<\/p>\n<p>The Netherlands was home to two warmblood\u00a0 breeds. The Groninger was bred in the north and was similar to other European breeds, the Altoldenburger and the Ostfriesen.\u00a0 The Gelderlander was bred in the south, its build is lighter. It was originally used as a workhorse for agriculture and as a cart horse.<\/p>\n<p>After World\u00a0 War II, as mechanization in society and agriculture\u00a0 gained momentum and equestrian sports increased\u00a0 in popularity, these horses were also used under saddle.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cThe Gelderlander was a real all-rounder:\u00a0 for work in the countryside, at the weekend\u00a0 for riding in dressage, jumping or eventing, and, on\u00a0 Sundays, as a means to get to church. Its characteristics were just as versatile: a strong horse with a good walk and trot with a lot of flexion in the\u00a0 joints and a sublime front leg technique with a lot\u00a0 of shoulder freedom and knee action.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>At the time, the selection process for character and willingness\u00a0 to perform already existed: \u201cPeople parted with\u00a0 horses that did not want to work,&#8221; is how Johan Hamminga,\u00a0 a dressage trainer up to the Grand Prix-level\u00a0 and a member of the KWPN licensing commission, describes the Gelderlander.<\/p>\n<p>According to\u00a0 literature (Wikipedia), the Andalusian, Neapolitan,\u00a0 Anglo-Norman breeds as well as Norfolk Trotters\u00a0 are mentioned as breeds that influenced the Gelderlander.\u00a0 The latter breed, which originated in\u00a0 England, has also influenced various trotter breeds,\u00a0 among others.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-58692\" src=\"https:\/\/www.horsemagazine.com\/thm\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/Eclatant-.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"634\" height=\"435\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.horsemagazine.com\/thm\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/Eclatant-.jpg 634w, https:\/\/www.horsemagazine.com\/thm\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/Eclatant--300x206.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.horsemagazine.com\/thm\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/Eclatant--437x300.jpg 437w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 634px) 100vw, 634px\" \/><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><em>Eclatant &#8211; Hannoverian influence in The Netherlands<\/em><\/p>\n<p>Changing the breeding process towards\u00a0 creating riding horses began as early as the\u00a0 1950s with imported stallions such as the Anglo-Norman, L\u2018Invasion, or the Holstein, Normann, and \u00a0later Amor, to name a few. But also the Hannoveraner,\u00a0 Eclatant by Duellant\/Ableger\u00a0 out of the mare\u00a0 line of Nehrung (breeder: Claus Schmoldt, Hollerdeich)\u00a0 played a role.<\/p>\n<p>Eclatant was born\u00a0 in 1963, and sold to the Netherlands at Verden\u2019s stallion\u00a0 sales in 1965. In the 06\/1965 issue of &#8216;Hannoversches\u00a0 Pferd&#8217;, he is described as a \u201cstrong\u00a0 stallion with a very steadfast character, a short\u00a0 cannon-bone and very good, swinging movements.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>In 1969, the existing studbooks merged and the\u00a0 Royal Warmblood Studbook of the Netherlands\u00a0 (KWPN) was founded. Since 2006, there have been four official breeding directions: the dressage horse, the\u00a0 show-jumping horse, the carriage horse and the\u00a0 Gelder horse.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.horsemagazine.com\/thm\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/Doruto.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-58700\" src=\"https:\/\/www.horsemagazine.com\/thm\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/Doruto.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"550\" height=\"482\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.horsemagazine.com\/thm\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/Doruto.jpg 550w, https:\/\/www.horsemagazine.com\/thm\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/Doruto-300x263.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.horsemagazine.com\/thm\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/Doruto-342x300.jpg 342w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 550px) 100vw, 550px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><em>Doruto &#8211; one of the first of the dressage sires&#8230;<\/em><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.horsemagazine.com\/thm\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/03\/GribaldiFinal.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-57697\" src=\"https:\/\/www.horsemagazine.com\/thm\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/03\/GribaldiFinal.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"700\" height=\"449\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.horsemagazine.com\/thm\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/03\/GribaldiFinal.jpg 700w, https:\/\/www.horsemagazine.com\/thm\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/03\/GribaldiFinal-300x192.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.horsemagazine.com\/thm\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/03\/GribaldiFinal-468x300.jpg 468w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 700px) 100vw, 700px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><em>Gribaldi, Totilas was his most famous son<\/em><\/p>\n<p>Foreign genetics were heavily used\u00a0 In the development of the dressage and showjumping\u00a0breeding lines: Trakehner stallions such as\u00a0 Doruto (born 1962 by Komet) and Gribaldi (born\u00a0 1993 by Kostolany), Holstein stallions such as\u00a0 Flemmingh (born 1987 by Lacapo), Selle Fran\u00e7ais\u00a0 stallions such as Le Mexico (born 1970 by Mexico who was \u00a0a full brother of Furioso II), but also Hannoveraner\u00a0 stallions were used.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-13670\" src=\"https:\/\/www.horsemagazine.com\/thm\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/08\/Flemmingh-HERO.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"550\" height=\"400\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.horsemagazine.com\/thm\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/08\/Flemmingh-HERO.jpg 550w, https:\/\/www.horsemagazine.com\/thm\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/08\/Flemmingh-HERO-300x218.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 550px) 100vw, 550px\" \/><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\">Flemmingh &#8211; one of the important Holsteiner imports<\/p>\n<p>Especially Voltaire by\u00a0 Furioso II\/Gotthard (born in 1979; breeder: Erika\u00a0 Kuwert, M\u00fclheim), had a strong, positive influence\u00a0 on the development of the breeding of Dutch show\u00a0 jumpers.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-35821\" src=\"https:\/\/www.horsemagazine.com\/thm\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/05\/LordLeatherdale.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"750\" height=\"627\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.horsemagazine.com\/thm\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/05\/LordLeatherdale.jpg 750w, https:\/\/www.horsemagazine.com\/thm\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/05\/LordLeatherdale-300x251.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.horsemagazine.com\/thm\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/05\/LordLeatherdale-359x300.jpg 359w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 750px) 100vw, 750px\" \/><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><em>Lord Leatherdale<\/em><\/p>\n<p>Lord Leatherdale by Lord Loxley\/Ferragamo,\u00a0 born in 2003 and bred in the Rhineland by\u00a0 Zuchtgemeinschaft Pleines in Uedem, continues to\u00a0 be popular in the breeding of dressage horses.\u00a0 Among others, he is the sire of Glamourdale, the\u00a0 World Champion of Young Dressage Horses 2019.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.horsemagazine.com\/thm\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/GlamourdaleTrot3.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-58701\" src=\"https:\/\/www.horsemagazine.com\/thm\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/GlamourdaleTrot3.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"700\" height=\"453\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.horsemagazine.com\/thm\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/GlamourdaleTrot3.jpg 700w, https:\/\/www.horsemagazine.com\/thm\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/GlamourdaleTrot3-300x194.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.horsemagazine.com\/thm\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/GlamourdaleTrot3-464x300.jpg 464w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 700px) 100vw, 700px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><em>Glamourdale<\/em><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><em>story continues below the advertisement<\/em><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><a href=\"http:\/\/hannoveraner.com\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-42782\" src=\"https:\/\/www.horsemagazine.com\/thm\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/08\/HAN_AZ_Sizrd210x297.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"700\" height=\"990\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.horsemagazine.com\/thm\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/08\/HAN_AZ_Sizrd210x297.jpg 700w, https:\/\/www.horsemagazine.com\/thm\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/08\/HAN_AZ_Sizrd210x297-212x300.jpg 212w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 700px) 100vw, 700px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong>About the breeding principles<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>In the book &#8216;The KWPN Horse&#8217; which was published\u00a0 by the KWPN in 2012, the breeding objectives\u00a0 and selection characteristics of the Dutch dressage\u00a0 horse are described in detail. The breeding goal is explicitly defined as striving to produce a horse\u00a0 that has the conformation and movement to be successful in Grand Prix.<\/p>\n<p>Many criteria are similar\u00a0 to those in Hannover, but some accents are definitely\u00a0 set differently.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cRaising the forehand is one of\u00a0 the basics of dressage and that is why we prefer\u00a0 an upright (vertical) neck carriage in the dressage\u00a0 horse,&#8221; is the formulation in The KWPN Horse.<\/p>\n<p>Great importance is also attached to the horses\u00a0 being constructed uphill and, above all, to them\u00a0 moving uphill, bringing the forehand up in the movement,\u00a0 having good self-carriage and being light-footed.\u00a0 For this they should be supple in the joints\u00a0 with an active hind leg and a bit of knee action.<\/p>\n<p><strong>What are the experiences in the Hannoveraner Verband\u00a0 with Dutch genetics?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.horsemagazine.com\/thm\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/DutchBreedingRotated-2.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-58757\" src=\"https:\/\/www.horsemagazine.com\/thm\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/DutchBreedingRotated-2.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"399\" height=\"1024\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.horsemagazine.com\/thm\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/DutchBreedingRotated-2.jpg 399w, https:\/\/www.horsemagazine.com\/thm\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/DutchBreedingRotated-2-117x300.jpg 117w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 399px) 100vw, 399px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><em>(Editor&#8217;s note: I am sorry to give you a crick in your neck but this is the only way I know to present the information in a readable form)<\/em><\/p>\n<p>In the Hannoveraner Yearbook Stallions 2021, the breeding values of\u00a0 nine KWPN dressage stallions are published and\u00a0 shown in the chart above. The estimated breeding values from the studbook evaluations confirm\u00a0 an overall positive heredity with regard to the conformation\u00a0 of horses. The average was 118 ranging\u00a0 from 91 to 143.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-29704\" src=\"https:\/\/www.horsemagazine.com\/thm\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/09\/Ampere1.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"750\" height=\"500\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.horsemagazine.com\/thm\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/09\/Ampere1.jpg 750w, https:\/\/www.horsemagazine.com\/thm\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/09\/Ampere1-300x200.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.horsemagazine.com\/thm\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/09\/Ampere1-450x300.jpg 450w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 750px) 100vw, 750px\" \/><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><em>Amp\u00e8re, 138 for type, 143 for conformation, 124 for canter, but 90 for walk, FN young horse value 141 (0.96 reliability), highest level achieved 148 (0.86)<\/em><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-large wp-image-53158\" src=\"https:\/\/www.horsemagazine.com\/thm\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/10\/Vivaldi-061105-7618-1024x702.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"584\" height=\"400\" \/><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><em>Vivaldi &#8211; 118 for type, but the best walk of the Dutch stallions, 112, FN breeding value for young horses, 150 (0.95) and for highest level achieved, 184 (0.82)<\/em><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-58168\" src=\"https:\/\/www.horsemagazine.com\/thm\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/10\/Daniel-Bachmann-Andersen-Blue-Hors-Zack-GOTH19L105759.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"650\" height=\"638\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.horsemagazine.com\/thm\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/10\/Daniel-Bachmann-Andersen-Blue-Hors-Zack-GOTH19L105759.jpg 650w, https:\/\/www.horsemagazine.com\/thm\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/10\/Daniel-Bachmann-Andersen-Blue-Hors-Zack-GOTH19L105759-300x294.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.horsemagazine.com\/thm\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/10\/Daniel-Bachmann-Andersen-Blue-Hors-Zack-GOTH19L105759-306x300.jpg 306w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 650px) 100vw, 650px\" \/><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><em>Zack, 132 for type, the best canter score, 130, and a good score for walk, 111 &#8211; FN breeding value for young horses 134 (0.96) \u00a0and for highest level achieved 160 (0.88)<\/em><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-58695\" src=\"https:\/\/www.horsemagazine.com\/thm\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/bordeaux.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"700\" height=\"522\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.horsemagazine.com\/thm\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/bordeaux.jpg 700w, https:\/\/www.horsemagazine.com\/thm\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/bordeaux-300x224.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.horsemagazine.com\/thm\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/bordeaux-402x300.jpg 402w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 700px) 100vw, 700px\" \/><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><em>Bordeaux gets the lowest score for type, 90, but he is the third highest on the FN values for young horses, 143 (0.97) and the second highest for highest level achieved, 170 (0.90)<\/em><\/p>\n<p>From a statistical point of view, these breeding values are quite well secured. Between\u00a0 29 and 49 daughters per stallion were evaluated,\u00a0 the accuracy is between 0.78 and 0.86.<\/p>\n<p>The\u00a0 Hannoveraner breeding value dressage is estimated\u00a0 from the assessments at the broodmare tests\u00a0 and from the evaluations at Verden\u2019s auctions. The\u00a0 number of horses evaluated was between 13 and\u00a0 52 per stallion, the accuracy between 0.68 and\u00a0 0.88. Changes may still be expected in the breeding\u00a0 values, which show a low accuracy.<\/p>\n<p>Of the breeding values for the basic gaits, the one for canter is the highest with an average value of\u00a0 111 and a range of 87 to 130. Clear individual\u00a0 differences can be seen. The worst breeding value is the walk with an average value of 98 with a\u00a0 range from 81 to 112. The average values for trot\u00a0 (106) and rideability (105) are in between. The average overall dressage breeding value is 105\u00a0 with a range of 94 to 119, which is rather sparse\u00a0 for potential dressage specialists.<\/p>\n<p>The picture is\u00a0 completely different when looking at the sport based\u00a0 breeding values. The average FN breeding\u00a0 value for young horse tests (which includes results\u00a0 from stallion performance tests, broodmare tests\u00a0 and dressage horse tests) is 134 with a range of\u00a0 117 to 150. Eight of these nine stallions already have a breeding value for \u201chighest achieved\u00a0 class&#8221;, and the result is outstanding. The average\u00a0 breeding value is 157 with a range of 133 to 184.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><em>story continues below the advertisement<\/em><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><a href=\"http:\/\/gestuet-sprehe.de\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-57514\" src=\"https:\/\/www.horsemagazine.com\/thm\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/02\/SpreheFullPage-1.jpeg\" alt=\"\" width=\"700\" height=\"971\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.horsemagazine.com\/thm\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/02\/SpreheFullPage-1.jpeg 700w, https:\/\/www.horsemagazine.com\/thm\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/02\/SpreheFullPage-1-216x300.jpeg 216w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 700px) 100vw, 700px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p><strong>Interpreting the results\u00a0 \u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>From my impressions at mare performance tests, I can confirm that offspring of Dutch stallions are\u00a0 more often endowed with less swinging trot movements \u00a0than the Hannoveraner or Rhineland\u00a0 mares. The canter often is the best gait, the walk the weaker gait.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.horsemagazine.com\/thm\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/IngoPape.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-58706\" src=\"https:\/\/www.horsemagazine.com\/thm\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/IngoPape.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"700\" height=\"674\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.horsemagazine.com\/thm\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/IngoPape.jpg 700w, https:\/\/www.horsemagazine.com\/thm\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/IngoPape-300x289.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.horsemagazine.com\/thm\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/IngoPape-312x300.jpg 312w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 700px) 100vw, 700px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><em>Hannoverian Breeder, Ingo Pape<\/em><\/p>\n<p>Could it be that the horses\u00a0 need more time in their development allowing\u00a0 their undoubtedly present talents to emerge? German breeder, Ingo Pape\u2018s comment fits this, \u201cIn the first phase under\u00a0 the rider, the Dutch horses often appear to be running.\u00a0 The movement is not very swinging. The horses\u00a0 then certainly need the influence of a suitable\u00a0 rider to add stability to the rhythm, as well as springiness and increased suspension to the movement,\u00a0 whose mechanics are labor-intense.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>It is\u00a0 fitting that the Hannoveraner breeding values,\u00a0 which are mainly based on the evaluation of three and\u00a0 four-year-old horses, are relatively low.<\/p>\n<p>With\u00a0 increasing age and appropriate rider encouragement,\u00a0 the movement sequences are developed,\u00a0 resulting in higher horse show-breeding values.<\/p>\n<p>Furthermore \u2013 just sufficient movement with less swing can be advantageous for the collection. A\u00a0 pre-disposition for Grand Prix does not require very\u00a0 big movement; the rideability of a Grand Prix-talent\u00a0 does not have to be easy. There are enough\u00a0 examples of successful Grand Prix horses, including\u00a0 Hannoveraner, that were difficult and required\u00a0 great riding skills.<\/p>\n<p>In conversations with Hannoveraner breeders, there\u00a0 was scepticism about the use of KWPN stallions.\u00a0 The scepticism is based on self-made experiences.<\/p>\n<p>Henning Schulze from Tiddische near Gifhorn, who\u00a0 is one of the larger breeders in the district association\u00a0 of L\u00fcneburg, observed that rhythm and impulsion\u00a0 are often lost and the walk is not good\u00a0 enough. \u201cBut without a walk, I can\u2018t sell a dressage\u00a0 horse today,\u201c he says.<\/p>\n<p>Herbert Kruse from\u00a0 Hamburg, also one of the larger and more successful breeders, who has already produced numerous \u00a0licensed stallions such as Don Nobless, emphasizes\u00a0 the importance of rideability, \u201cI need rideable horses\u00a0 that the recreational rider can also ride. The\u00a0 horses must be &#8216;clear in the head&#8217; \u2013 that is the\u00a0 be-all and end-all.\u201c He sees deficits in this respect in many Dutch stallions.<\/p>\n<p>Rudolf Schepergerdes from Meppen knows the\u00a0 market in Emsland very well. He is a successful\u00a0breeder himself, but also the contact person for\u00a0 many foal buyers and sellers. \u201cI see a decreasing interest in foals by KWPN stallions. Breeders tell me that starting the young horses is more complicated,\u201c\u00a0 he says.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-21631\" src=\"https:\/\/www.horsemagazine.com\/thm\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/02\/TotoJnrWEB.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"550\" height=\"470\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.horsemagazine.com\/thm\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/02\/TotoJnrWEB.jpg 550w, https:\/\/www.horsemagazine.com\/thm\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/02\/TotoJnrWEB-300x256.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.horsemagazine.com\/thm\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/02\/TotoJnrWEB-351x300.jpg 351w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 550px) 100vw, 550px\" \/><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><em>Toto Junior<\/em><\/p>\n<p>But he has had good experiences with offspring\u00a0 of the Hannoveraner-bred Totilas son, Toto Junior,\u00a0 who is popular in the Netherlands.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cMany breeders\u00a0 in Emsland use stallions from the neighbouring\u00a0 country, to be able to offer different genetics\u00a0 than those, which everyone has,\u201c he adds.<\/p>\n<p>Heinrich Behrmann, a successful and experienced\u00a0 Hannoveraner breeder from Stedebergen near Verden,\u00a0 is convinced of the Dutch way. Numerous licensed\u00a0 stallions come from his breeding, of which\u00a0 the great Bolero is best known.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cI really became\u00a0 aware of Dutch dressage horses at the World\u00a0 Championships for Young Dressage Horses in Verden\u00a0 in 2009 with the stallions Westpoint and Wynton.\u00a0 After that, I got involved with the Dutch studbook\u00a0 and the development of their sport horses. I\u00a0 came to the conclusion that they select more sharply.\u00a0 I have been using KWPN stallions in my breeding\u00a0 program for ten years.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.horsemagazine.com\/thm\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/08\/donjuan-hero.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-42658\" src=\"https:\/\/www.horsemagazine.com\/thm\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/08\/donjuan-hero.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"700\" height=\"467\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.horsemagazine.com\/thm\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/08\/donjuan-hero.jpg 700w, https:\/\/www.horsemagazine.com\/thm\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/08\/donjuan-hero-300x200.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.horsemagazine.com\/thm\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/08\/donjuan-hero-450x300.jpg 450w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 700px) 100vw, 700px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><em>Don Juan de Hus<\/em><\/p>\n<p>&#8220;It started with Don Juan de Hus, whom I saw for the first time in Hoya.\u00a0 The horse had an incredible aura and a top canter.\u00a0 I had two very good foals by him. He also confirmed\u00a0 his positive heredity with D\u2018avie FRH, the\u00a0 double World Champion of Young Dressage Horses\u00a0 bred by Dorothee Heitm\u00fcller, who I was allowed\u00a0 to raise. I have also had good experiences with\u00a0 Bordeaux. I am very convinced of Asgard&#8217;s Ibiza (Desperado \/ Jazz), by\u00a0 whom I have nine offspring so far. They are all super correct horses with a great charisma and good\u00a0 manners. For me, Ibiza as a sire is on the same level as Valentino xx and Absatz in the past, who\u00a0 have particularly influenced breeding in the Verden\u00a0 area.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-58749\" src=\"https:\/\/www.horsemagazine.com\/thm\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/Asgards-Ibiza.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"700\" height=\"600\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.horsemagazine.com\/thm\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/Asgards-Ibiza.jpg 700w, https:\/\/www.horsemagazine.com\/thm\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/Asgards-Ibiza-300x257.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.horsemagazine.com\/thm\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/Asgards-Ibiza-350x300.jpg 350w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 700px) 100vw, 700px\" \/><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><em>Asgard&#8217;s Ibiza (photo &#8211; Hengsthaltung Martin Determann)<\/em><\/p>\n<p>&#8220;I analyse the dam lines very thoroughly before\u00a0 I use a stallion, because it is also true for the\u00a0 KWPN that not every horse is needed. There is a clear line in the selection of dressage horses in the\u00a0 Netherlands and selection process is very strict.\u00a0 The most important criteria are self-carriage, a stable topline, an active, diligent hind leg, correctness,\u00a0 good angulation of the front leg in the trot and\u00a0 light-footedness. The greatest value is placed on\u00a0 the canter. I remain Holland-minded.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Arend Kamphorst is &#8216;Holland-minded&#8217; almost by\u00a0 birth. Born in the Netherlands, he is one of the\u00a0most successful Hannoveraner breeders with the\u00a0 Dree B\u00f6ken breeding farm in Prieros, Brandenburg.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cI look around everywhere for the best stallions.\u00a0 With the KWPN stallions, I like the impressive front end, which \u2013 from my point of view \u2013 comes from\u00a0 the Groninger. However, I would like the walk to be\u00a0 better,\u201c he says.<\/p>\n<p>Emma Blundell is a successful\u00a0 Hannoveraner breeder in England and, looking\u00a0 from the outside, has a no-nonsense view. She sees benefits in combining the advantages of German\u00a0 horses with those of the KWPN dressage horse.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.horsemagazine.com\/thm\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/09\/SCharlotte-Dujardin-Mount-St-John-Freestyle-TRYO18L12437.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-43286\" src=\"https:\/\/www.horsemagazine.com\/thm\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/09\/SCharlotte-Dujardin-Mount-St-John-Freestyle-TRYO18L12437.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"700\" height=\"494\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.horsemagazine.com\/thm\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/09\/SCharlotte-Dujardin-Mount-St-John-Freestyle-TRYO18L12437.jpg 700w, https:\/\/www.horsemagazine.com\/thm\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/09\/SCharlotte-Dujardin-Mount-St-John-Freestyle-TRYO18L12437-300x212.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.horsemagazine.com\/thm\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/09\/SCharlotte-Dujardin-Mount-St-John-Freestyle-TRYO18L12437-425x300.jpg 425w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 700px) 100vw, 700px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p><em>Emma Blundell&#8217;s Mount St John Freestyle and Charlotte Dujardin at the WEG in Tryon<\/em><\/p>\n<p><strong>The trainers&#8217; view<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Matthias Klatt is Chairman of the Breeding Committee\u00a0 Dressage of the Hannoveraner Verband and\u00a0 is a successful dressage horse breeder in Hahausen\u00a0 (Harzvorland). He rides up to advanced S-level and is a sought-after trainer.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cFor me, the German training\u00a0 scale stands above everything. The training goals associated with it cannot be achieved as\u00a0 quickly with many Dutch horses. The horses have to be ridden differently.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Is there a different training \u00a0philosophy in the Netherlands, is riding done\u00a0 differently there?<\/p>\n<p>Matthias Alexander Rath, dressage\u00a0 rider and trainer at the breeding farm Schafhof\u00a0 in Kronberg, made his own experiences with\u00a0 Dutch horses (Totilas, Bretton Woods) and with\u00a0 German horses (Foundation, Destacado FRH). He is\u00a0 convinced that this question can be answered with\u00a0 &#8216;yes&#8217;.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.horsemagazine.com\/thm\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/Totilas-Rath-Matthias-101130-038.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-58707\" src=\"https:\/\/www.horsemagazine.com\/thm\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/Totilas-Rath-Matthias-101130-038.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"700\" height=\"558\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.horsemagazine.com\/thm\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/Totilas-Rath-Matthias-101130-038.jpg 700w, https:\/\/www.horsemagazine.com\/thm\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/Totilas-Rath-Matthias-101130-038-300x239.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.horsemagazine.com\/thm\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/Totilas-Rath-Matthias-101130-038-376x300.jpg 376w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 700px) 100vw, 700px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><em>Matthias Alexander and Totilas soon after the purchase of the stallion<\/em><\/p>\n<p>\u201cI have ridden in the Netherlands myself.\u00a0 Seat and influence are different. The horses are not constantly on the rider\u2019s leg, as it is common in\u00a0 Germany, but they have to react to the leg all the\u00a0 more quickly.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Johann Hinnemann knows the dressage sport in\u00a0 the Netherlands very well. He with his KWPN gelding\u00a0 Ideaal was Team World Champion with the\u00a0 German team in Toronto\/CAN in 1986. He was one of the trainers of the dressage senior squad in the\u00a0 Netherlands in 2003 and 2004 and his expertise\u00a0 as a trainer is in demand worldwide. He answers the question about a different training philosophy\u00a0 in the Netherlands with a clear &#8216;no&#8217;.<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-21890\" src=\"https:\/\/www.horsemagazine.com\/thm\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/07\/HinnemannIdeall.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"550\" height=\"489\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.horsemagazine.com\/thm\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/07\/HinnemannIdeall.jpg 550w, https:\/\/www.horsemagazine.com\/thm\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/07\/HinnemannIdeall-300x266.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.horsemagazine.com\/thm\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/07\/HinnemannIdeall-337x300.jpg 337w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 550px) 100vw, 550px\" \/><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><em>Johann Hinnemann and Ideaal<\/em><strong><em>\u00a0<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n<p>\u201cThe vast\u00a0 majority of riders in the Netherlands ride according\u00a0 to the same classical principles as in Germany. That doesn\u2018t rule out that there are individual black\u00a0 sheep, just like there are in Germany.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>He considers\u00a0 it a great responsibility for the judges to\u00a0 show, where the limits are. But that is a completely\u00a0 different topic.<\/p>\n<p>Hans-Heinrich Meyer zu Strohen is a member of\u00a0 the Hannoveraner licensing commission, a trainer\u00a0 at Verden\u2019s auctions, the national trainer of the junior\u00a0 and young rider squads and a sought-after\u00a0 dressage trainer. Comparing the mechanics in the\u00a0 movement, he likes the powerful push-off of Dutch\u00a0 horses. The impulsion of the (German) horse has\u00a0 advantages especially at a young age. A little less\u00a0 impulsion can definitely be an advantage for the\u00a0 piaffe, but not for the passage and for the lateral\u00a0 movements.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cIn Hannover, the mechanics of the\u00a0 movement have much improved over the past ten\u00a0 years. In addition, the very good basic rideability is\u00a0 an absolute highlight of the Hannoveraner breeding\u00a0 program. When I am on the road internationally, I am often commended also by the Dutch for\u00a0 the great horses that we have for our young riders.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.horsemagazine.com\/thm\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/WeydenRetires.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-58709 aligncenter\" src=\"https:\/\/www.horsemagazine.com\/thm\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/WeydenRetires.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"450\" height=\"708\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.horsemagazine.com\/thm\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/WeydenRetires.jpg 450w, https:\/\/www.horsemagazine.com\/thm\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/WeydenRetires-191x300.jpg 191w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 450px) 100vw, 450px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><em>Gonnelien Rothenberger competing for The Netherlands riding the Hannoverian stallion, Weyden. He was also competed by Sven.<\/em><\/p>\n<p>The Rothenberger dressage stable in Bad Homburg\u00a0 has a lot of experience with both German and\u00a0 Dutch horses. Gonnelien Rothenberger, n\u00e9e Gordijn,\u00a0 comes from the Netherlands and was internationally\u00a0 successful for her home country.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.horsemagazine.com\/thm\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/09\/RothenbergerCosmo.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-43223\" src=\"https:\/\/www.horsemagazine.com\/thm\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/09\/RothenbergerCosmo.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"700\" height=\"555\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.horsemagazine.com\/thm\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/09\/RothenbergerCosmo.jpg 700w, https:\/\/www.horsemagazine.com\/thm\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/09\/RothenbergerCosmo-300x238.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.horsemagazine.com\/thm\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/09\/RothenbergerCosmo-378x300.jpg 378w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 700px) 100vw, 700px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><em>S\u00f6nke Rothenberger and the Dutch-bred Cosmo at Aachen<\/em><\/p>\n<p>Son S\u00f6nke\u00a0 collected the greatest successes with the\u00a0 Dutch-bred Cosmo (team gold in 2018 at the\u00a0 World Championships in Tryon\/USA, Team European\u00a0 Champion in Rotterdam\/NED in 2019);\u00a0 daughter Sanneke was U25 Individual European\u00a0 Champion in 2016 with the Oldenburg Deveraux\u00a0 and highly successful with the Hannoveraner Wolkenstein\u00a0 II daughter Wolke Sieben.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.horsemagazine.com\/thm\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/SanekeRothenbergerDevereux.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-58754\" src=\"https:\/\/www.horsemagazine.com\/thm\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/SanekeRothenbergerDevereux.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"700\" height=\"527\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.horsemagazine.com\/thm\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/SanekeRothenbergerDevereux.jpg 700w, https:\/\/www.horsemagazine.com\/thm\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/SanekeRothenbergerDevereux-300x226.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.horsemagazine.com\/thm\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/SanekeRothenbergerDevereux-398x300.jpg 398w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 700px) 100vw, 700px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><em>Sanneke Rothenberger and Devereux<\/em><\/p>\n<p>The Rothenberger\u00a0 stable not only trains dressage horses, but also\u00a0 raises young horses, including horses acquired in the Netherlands. Sven Rothenberger, who also is\u00a0 highly successful in dressage \u2013 he won team silver\u00a0 and individual bronze at the Olympic Games in Atlanta\/\u00a0 USA in 1996 with the Hannoveraner stallion\u00a0 Weyden v. Westerland \u2013 rightly calls for not generalizing\u00a0too much on the subject:<\/p>\n<p>\u201cOne must not\u00a0 say that the Dutch horses have no walk. Totilas is a counter-example, he had a good walk himself and\u00a0 often passed it on. In general, I have had the experience that KWPN stallions pass on one thing\u00a0 and that is health. Here the consequent selection for this characteristic is noticeable. The most important criteria of a good dressage horse are a\u00a0 good canter, willingness to perform and willingness\u00a0 to go. And this is what I find in the Netherlands.\u00a0 If the willingness to go is too great, it can be difficult for less experienced riders. I think it is\u00a0 good that many of the best young stallions in the\u00a0 Netherlands stay with stallion owners and that\u00a0 these stallions are given the opportunity to prove\u00a0 themselves in competition. A society must have\u00a0 principles and these principles must be adhered\u00a0 to.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.horsemagazine.com\/thm\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/07\/HeaderChristophHessPort2.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-55193\" src=\"https:\/\/www.horsemagazine.com\/thm\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/07\/HeaderChristophHessPort2.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"700\" height=\"424\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.horsemagazine.com\/thm\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/07\/HeaderChristophHessPort2.jpg 700w, https:\/\/www.horsemagazine.com\/thm\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/07\/HeaderChristophHessPort2-300x182.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.horsemagazine.com\/thm\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/07\/HeaderChristophHessPort2-495x300.jpg 495w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 700px) 100vw, 700px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><em>Christoph Hess<\/em><\/p>\n<p>The long-time head of the FN training department\u00a0 and the international dressage judge \u2013 often\u00a0 also in dressage horse competitions up to World\u00a0 Championships \u2013 Christoph Hess from Warendorf\u00a0 naturally also has his eye on the development in\u00a0 the neighbouring country:<\/p>\n<p>\u201cThe Dutch are very\u00a0 pragmatic people. In the development of the KWPN dressage horse, they adjusted their breeding\u00a0 program according to what is needed for the\u00a0 Grand Prix. The movement is a bit shorter and is easily collected.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Hannes Baumgart, member of\u00a0 the Hannoveraner licensing commission and dressage\u00a0 rider and trainer up to Grand Prix, furthermore\u00a0 sees changes in the Grand Prix tests, which could\u00a0 be advantageous for the Dutch way:<\/p>\n<p>\u201cThe tests\u00a0 have been shortened considerably, giving more importance\u00a0 to piaffe and passage. For the mark for\u00a0 impulsion, the weighting has been reduced.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Different origins and different breeding philosophies\u00a0 have produced different horses in the\u00a0Netherlands and in Hannover. Above all, the Gelderlander\u00a0 was the basis of the breeding program\u00a0 in the Netherlands, a carriage-type horse with a\u00a0 high, impressive trot. In Hanover, besides suitability\u00a0 for agriculture, the focus has always been on\u00a0 suitability for riding.<\/p>\n<p>The first stallion\u00a0 performance test, in which riding qualities were\u00a0 tested, \u00a0existed almost 100 years ago. Here\u00a0 the suitability as remounts for the military was of\u00a0 utmost importance.<\/p>\n<p>In the book \u201cDer Hannoveraner\u201c\u00a0 (The Hannoveraner) from 1967, the then Managing\u00a0 Director and Breeding Director of the Hannoveraner\u00a0 Verband, Dr. Arnold Schlie, wrote:\u00a0 \u201cTypical for Hannover&#8230; is the flat style of movement\u00a0 in the front extremities&#8230; In Hanover it is agreed that the round gait caused by more or less, knee action is more conspicuous but less practical\u00a0 and less pleasant for the rider. The elasticity suffers, the tendons and ligaments are more\u00a0 stressed and the stride becomes shorter.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>So in The Netherlands, the task was to develop riding qualities\u00a0 and thus elasticity and relaxedness in all three\u00a0 basic gaits. In Hannover, the aim in the past decades was to meet the demands of the sport and\u00a0 thus also the demands of the market for higher\u00a0 movement without losing elasticity, relaxedness\u00a0 and a good walk.\u00a0 In the Netherlands, the reorientation of the sporthorse\u00a0 breeding program was geared towards the\u00a0 Grand Prix as its breeding goal right from the\u00a0 start. The specifications for conformation\u00a0 and movement were adjusted accordingly.\u00a0 The diligence in the movement and the quick push-off of the legs without losing the\u00a0 rhythm are important.<\/p>\n<p>In Germany, the breeding goal for the dressage horse is more general.\u00a0 In the forefront are swinging, relaxed and elastic movements, which were,\u00a0 especially in the past, sometimes a little\u00a0 slow, and well as good rideability with an\u00a0 equally good feel for the rider in the saddle.\u00a0 A Grand Prix horse is developed through consistent training in accordance with the guidelines of the training scale.<\/p>\n<p>Whether or\u00a0 not it is possible to breed a Grand Prix horse\u00a0 was, and sometimes still is, a controversial\u00a0 issue. The breeders in the Netherlands, but\u00a0 also the experiences in Germany especially\u00a0 \u2013 but not only \u2013 with the line of Donnerhall,\u00a0 show that this discussion can be put to sleep. Grand Prix as a breeding goal works.<\/p>\n<p>However, previous experiences with\u00a0 Dutch bloodlines, and to a degree also with\u00a0 other bloodlines, show that focusing on breeding\u00a0 a Grand Prix-specialist does not necessarily\u00a0 result in an improvement of the rideability\u00a0 across the board. An awareness that the horses do not become\u00a0 more complicated and difficult is important.<\/p>\n<p>The Hannoveraner\u00a0 is popular all over the world, especially\u00a0 because of its positive interior and its rideability\u00a0 characteristics. These must be preserved, without losing sight of the goal\u00a0 of supplying horses for top international\u00a0 competitions.<\/p>\n<p>Maryanna Haymon, a successful\u00a0 Hannoveraner breeder from the USA,\u00a0 once answered the question about her personal\u00a0 breeding goal as follows, \u201cMy goal is the\u00a0 amateur-friendly Grand Prix horse.&#8221; With her breeding philosophy, which focuses on her\u00a0 Hannoveraner Donnerhall\/Prince Thatch xx\u00a0 son Don Principe, she has achieved\u00a0 this ambitious goal several times.<\/p>\n<p>The Breeding\u00a0 Committee of the Hannoveraner Verband\u00a0 has decided to start an \u201cInitiative\u00a0 Grand Prix\u201c and thus underlines the importance\u00a0 of strengthening the focus on the\u00a0 Grand Prix-horse in the breeding of Hannoveraner\u00a0 dressage horses. In this project, the\u00a0 sport-proven Dutch genetics will be valuable.<\/p>\n<p>Klaus Storbeck, a Hannoveraner breeder and dressage judge from broodmare tests to\u00a0 Grand Prix, says, \u201cThe mixture makes the difference.\u00a0 A well-considered use of KWPN stallions\u00a0 can be positive.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>So it will be about\u00a0 combining the strengths of Dutch and Hannoveraner\u00a0 genetics. Horses like Toto Junior or\u00a0 most recently the Hannoveraner and Bundeschampion\u00a0 Va\u2018Pensiero prove that fascinating\u00a0 horses can come out of this. However, the breeder must know his expectations from\u00a0 the combination. As with every stallion selection,\u00a0 by the way &#8230;<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-58751\" src=\"https:\/\/www.horsemagazine.com\/thm\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/Va\u2018Pensiero.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"512\" height=\"342\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.horsemagazine.com\/thm\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/Va\u2018Pensiero.jpg 512w, https:\/\/www.horsemagazine.com\/thm\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/Va\u2018Pensiero-300x200.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.horsemagazine.com\/thm\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/Va\u2018Pensiero-449x300.jpg 449w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 512px) 100vw, 512px\" \/><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><em>Va\u2018Pensiero (Vitalis \/ F\u00fcrstenball) &#8211; photo credit: Equitaris<\/em><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong>Comments from an expert panel:<\/strong><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-33715\" src=\"https:\/\/www.horsemagazine.com\/thm\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/03\/johanport.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"293\" height=\"448\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.horsemagazine.com\/thm\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/03\/johanport.jpg 293w, https:\/\/www.horsemagazine.com\/thm\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/03\/johanport-196x300.jpg 196w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 293px) 100vw, 293px\" \/><\/p>\n<p><strong>Johan Hamminga<\/strong> is a\u00a0 member of the KWPN\u00a0 licensing commission\u00a0 and an experienced\u00a0 dressage trainer up to\u00a0 the Grand Prix-level.\u00a0 DER HANNOVERANER: Where do you\u00a0 see the Dutch and the German dressage\u00a0 horse breeding program?<\/p>\n<p>Johan Hamminga, \u201cWe are looking for a rideable\u00a0 horse with a lot of basic quality that\u00a0 can make it to the big arena. The KWPN has invested a lot in health and correctness of\u00a0 the horses and thus also in usability. You can\u00a0 have a very nice, good horse, but if he does\u00a0 not have a proper foundation (correct hooves\u00a0 and legs) and is not sound, he won\u2018t go far.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>DER HANNOVERANER: As this year\u2018s\u00a0 licensing showed, the KWPN continues\u00a0 to use German stallions. What should be improved with the use? Are there\u00a0 any preferred lines?<\/p>\n<p>Johan Hamminga, \u201cWe need German blood\u00a0 for more frame and to maintain the blood\u00a0 diversity in the breeding of dressage horses.\u00a0 So far, we have had good experiences with\u00a0 the offspring of Donnerhall and Rubinstein.\u00a0 For example, with De Niro: As the sire of Desperados,\u00a0 he is also represented in Glock\u2018s\u00a0 Toto Jr, who now successfully competes at\u00a0 the Grand Prix-level and who has proven\u00a0 himself as a producer. We furthermore would\u00a0 like to maybe use stallions out of the Hannoveraner\u00a0 B-line. Last year, Bloomberg FS, a\u00a0 son of Bon Coeur, was the winner of the stallion\u00a0 performance test in Ermelo.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>DER HANNOVERANER: How important\u00a0 are the walk and the relaxedness in\u00a0 the KWPN breeding program?<\/p>\n<p>Johan Hamminga: \u201cWalk and relaxedness\u00a0 are very important topics for us. In the past\u00a0 years, the KWPN has applied a strict selection\u00a0 process to the walk. We have managed\u00a0 to improve the walk in a few years. For us, a good walk flows through the entire body\u00a0 and creates a relaxed movement.\u00a0 In the Netherlands, however, we talk about a\u00a0 &#8216;German&#8217; or a &#8216;Dutch&#8217; walk. For us, it is most\u00a0 important that the walk is active and in a\u00a0 clear four-beat rhythm, that it flows through\u00a0 the whole body and and creates an over-stride\u00a0 by about the length of three hooves. My experience as a trainer has taught me that a horse with such a walk has more reaction in\u00a0 its body and can learn starting the piaffe easier\u00a0 and faster from this walk (with not too\u00a0 much overstride).&#8221;<\/p>\n<p><strong>Emma Blundell<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Emma Blundell has built\u00a0 up the Mount St. John\u00a0 Stud in Yorkshire in the\u00a0 north of England, where\u00a0 around 50 foals are born\u00a0 every year out of the best\u00a0 German and Dutch dressage\u00a0 lines. The breeding goal is the Grand Prix. She compares these different dressage\u00a0 horse breeds:<\/p>\n<p>\u201cThe KWPN horses often have a natural\u00a0 uphill conformation with often quite vertical,\u00a0 high-carried necks and a lot of energy and\u00a0 power, which is of course very helpful for the\u00a0 Grand Prix. These characteristics can cause difficulties in the early years. The horse might be more looky and therefore have less of an\u00a0 over-stride in the walk, because the horse is\u00a0 not as relaxed and does not use its back in\u00a0 the movement as it could. I often think that the young Dutch horses are ridden with a lot\u00a0 of pressure.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;I do, however, think that they have a lot of energy. It is probably not so easy for them to relax and walk on a longer\u00a0 rein, as, for example, the young German horses\u00a0 do. These are often more horizontal in their topline and naturally exhibit more\u00a0 swinging in the back, perhaps with softer\u00a0 and slower hind legs. Because of these characteristics, these horses are often more\u00a0 comfortable to sit to, and it is easier for them\u00a0 to become relaxed and show length in their\u00a0 strides. Through training, these horses develop their carrying power in the hindquarters,\u00a0 becoming quicker in their reactions and\u00a0 more uphill. Therefore, the training system to get a German horse to the Grand Prix level is\u00a0 very different from that of a KWPN horse.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-58763\" src=\"https:\/\/www.horsemagazine.com\/thm\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/MSJ-Vevo.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"642\" height=\"427\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.horsemagazine.com\/thm\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/MSJ-Vevo.jpg 642w, https:\/\/www.horsemagazine.com\/thm\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/MSJ-Vevo-300x200.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.horsemagazine.com\/thm\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/MSJ-Vevo-451x300.jpg 451w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 642px) 100vw, 642px\" \/><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><em>An example of the fusion at Mt St John &#8211; MSJ Verco &#8211; the pedigree goes Vitalis, Negro, Donnerhall. This foal was sold to Canada&#8230;<\/em><\/p>\n<p>&#8220;Most of our mare base is German, therefore\u00a0 I sometimes choose Dutch stallions for these\u00a0 mares to improve the uphill tendency and\u00a0 the speed of the reactions. Vice versa, on some of my Dutch mares that are more vertical\u00a0 in the neck and more gripping, I choose\u00a0 a more buoyant, powerfully moving German\u00a0 stallion, which I know has high rideability and naturally uses his back, while\u00a0 I pay particular attention to the horse&#8217;s walk\u00a0 and his ability to relax. I make these crosses believing that I can combine the best of both\u00a0 worlds.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;Fortunately, as a Brit, I don\u2018t have a nationalistic\u00a0 bias towards one or the other. I simply want to breed &#8211; as best I can &#8211; the best future\u00a0 sport horses for Grand Prix. In doing so,\u00a0 I focus on the strengths and weaknesses of\u00a0 each mare to achieve breeding progress for\u00a0 the next generation.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-58764\" src=\"https:\/\/www.horsemagazine.com\/thm\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/IngoPape-1.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"400\" height=\"546\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.horsemagazine.com\/thm\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/IngoPape-1.jpg 400w, https:\/\/www.horsemagazine.com\/thm\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/IngoPape-1-220x300.jpg 220w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 400px) 100vw, 400px\" \/><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong>Ingo Pape<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Ingo Pape, a well-known\u00a0 breeder, trainer and stallion\u00a0 owner, always keeps\u00a0 an eye on the development\u00a0 in the Netherlands.\u00a0 On the mechanics of the movement: \u201cIn the first phase under the rider,\u00a0 the KWPN horse often appears to us to be\u00a0 rushing and not exhibiting much swing. \u00a0The\u00a0 horses then certainly need the influence of a\u00a0 suitable rider, who adds a steady rhythm,\u00a0 springiness and an increased suspension\u00a0 phase to the mechanically complex movement.\u00a0 Top horses must basically be able to move big and small in all three gaits. Therefore, in my experience, it is easiest to train horses\u00a0 that have a medium gait volume but\u00a0 great flexibility and suppleness. Having absolutely no swing in the movement is certainly\u00a0 not an advantage with regard to the collection\u00a0 later, as for instance the passage requires a lot of\u00a0 swing.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Regarding rideability: \u201cA neck, which is carried\u00a0 too high due to the exterior of the horse,\u00a0 certainly does not make it easier for the rider\u00a0 to work the horse over its back. Even though Jazz, who is widely spread in the Netherlands,\u00a0 certainly was an exceptional sire, one can see\u00a0 this predisposition in many of his offspring. If this is combined with a lack of relaxation, it\u00a0 often becomes really difficult for the less experienced\u00a0 rider to reach his goals. This is where our Hannoveraner horses have a clear advantage\u00a0 across the board. This is especially true for the amateur sport, which makes up\u00a0 the largest part of the market to be served.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;Competitions are always decided in the mind.\u00a0 Therefore, being relaxed inside must always\u00a0 precede the outer relaxedness. What we should strive for in breeding horses is a positive\u00a0sensitivity, out of which a suitable trainer\u00a0 can then develop increased cadence and thus\u00a0 charisma. Just &#8216;being good&#8217; does not work for\u00a0 the tougher sport, neither does over-sensitivity.\u00a0 Basically positive qualities such as a great willingness to walk, strength, a good constitution\u00a0 and sensitivity can complicate things\u00a0 for less experienced riders at the beginning of\u00a0 the training process. However, these are exactly\u00a0 the qualities that are essential for a top\u00a0 horse.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;So, as is so often the case, it all comes\u00a0 down to the right balance. I believe, however,\u00a0 that this problem has been recognised in the\u00a0 Netherlands and that countermeasures are\u00a0 being taken. Improved composure will certainly\u00a0 also make it easier to better present the\u00a0 horses at the walk.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>On the breeding goal: \u201cIf you want to breed\u00a0 horses for top dressage competitions, the\u00a0 talent for collection is absolutely crucial. Willingness\u00a0 and ability for collection make the\u00a0 difference between a recreational athlete\u00a0 and a top horse. The KWPN recognized this early on and clearly defined breeding goals\u00a0 to that effect. It is very difficult to take into account the breeding selection on the mare\u00a0 side, because the predisposition for collection\u00a0 and the required strength for it can only\u00a0 really be assessed, once the mare is six years\u00a0 of age or older. By then, most mares are already in foal. Therefore, it is all the more important\u00a0 that the stallions are willing and capable\u00a0 of collection.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;Also in my function as a\u00a0 stallion owner, I have the greatest respect\u00a0 for the consistency, with which the KWPN\u00a0 and my Dutch colleagues have brought almost\u00a0 all line-founding or highly influential\u00a0 stallions into the international top sport.\u00a0 Jazz, Ferro, Cocktail, Krack C, Partout, Gribaldi,\u00a0 Johnson, Totilas, or Apache are just a few\u00a0 examples.\u00a0 In Germany, we have actually only managed\u00a0 to do this to a sufficient degree with the D-line\u00a0 (Donnerhall, Desperados, De Niro, Don\u00a0 Schufro, Damsey, Don Nobless). Besides, this\u00a0 verifies and confirms the toughness that is\u00a0 needed for the top sport. Toughness is a huge\u00a0 breeding issue and certainly cannot be defined\u00a0 by any X-ray findings. Since the sport\u00a0 ideally tests the qualities, which are needed\u00a0 in a breeding stallion, the Dutch concept\u00a0 should serve as an incentive for all of us in\u00a0 this respect. I am convinced that this is one of the keys of the KWPN\u2018s success in the targeted\u00a0 breeding of Grand Prix horses.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-58766\" src=\"https:\/\/www.horsemagazine.com\/thm\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/V-Plus.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"520\" height=\"428\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.horsemagazine.com\/thm\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/V-Plus.jpg 520w, https:\/\/www.horsemagazine.com\/thm\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/V-Plus-300x247.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.horsemagazine.com\/thm\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/V-Plus-364x300.jpg 364w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 520px) 100vw, 520px\" \/><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><em>The fusion in action &#8211; one of the Pape stallions, V-Plus. His topline is all Dutch:Vivaldi\/<br \/>\nKrack C\/Jazz\/Ulft and the damline, all German: F\u00fcrst Romancier\/Sandro Hit\/ Landadel<\/em><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\">ends<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>German or Dutch &#8211; that&#8217;s the question for the breeders of dressage horses&#8230; or is it, is the way forward a fusion? 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