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(Photo: Fellner)<\/em><\/p>\n By Britta Zungel<\/p>\n This article originally appeared in Der Hannoveraner, July 2021, and is re-produced with permission<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n On Hannoveraner TV, Jonny Hilberath met for a relaxed round of talks with Matthias Klatt, a member of the Dressage Presidium, Stefan Blanken and Anja Rietbrock from the Dressage Committee and Ulrich Hahne, \u00a0Hanoverian Breeding Director.\u00a0The rider, trainer and co-national trainer for Germany is not only concerned with the sport; breeding is also close to his heart. Jonny Hilberath has since passed away.<\/p>\n What actually makes a good Grand Prix horse? A few years ago, a guideline on the subject of breeding Grand Prix horses was compiled: <\/strong><\/p>\n For Grand Prix, a horse with a good basic quality of the gaits is needed. For the ability to collect, especially the carrying capacity in addition to the basic mobility of the horse is important.\u00a0The temperament also significantly influences the suitability for a Grand\u00a0Prix \u00a0horse. It must be sensitive and able to develop a positive attitude towards the required tasks.\u00a0In addition, the health of the limbs, in particular, is of great importance. These are all terms that must be met. <\/strong><\/p>\n Good basic quality of the gaits – what does that actually mean?<\/strong><\/p>\n Jonny Hilberath and the Hanoverian stallion, \u00a0Wenckstern (Weltmeyer\/Western Star), Grand Prix competitors<\/em><\/p>\n Matthias Klatt: “Movement does not necessarily have to be spectacular, but rhythmical and powerful. The hind legs, and the back, must be strong and powerful. You can already see that in a young\u00a0horse, even in a foal.\u201d<\/p>\n Jonny Hilberath: “A horse should be designed with a lot of freedom in the shoulder. The conformation must allow the horse\u2019s front legs to move forward and upward in the canter, walk and trot; the hind legs must be able to step under the horse\u2019s centre of gravity. Spectacular movement only does not mean a quality trot and canter; the rhythm and the swinging are also important. Good coordination of the limbs develops the momentum. This also applies to the walk. There is no successful dressage horse today, in which all three basic gaits\u00a0are not of equally good quality.\u201d<\/p>\n Dorothee Schneider and Showtime FRH winning at the Bundeschampionate. Anja Rietbrock: “Horses that are balanced at a young age, have a harmonious appearance, and work over the back, and will later be able to execute difficult test movements .\u201d<\/p>\n Jonny Hilberath: “It\u2019s in the nature of things: Everything that comes naturally is easier for the horse. Everything that the rider has to support or generate is much more difficult for the horse. \u00a0Which means the sustainability is often limited.\u201d<\/p>\n Stefan Blanken: “Especially at foal shows, you don\u2019t need to watch the spectacular \u2019rompers\u2019 for two rounds. Foals should come into the arena calmly, evenly and rhythmically and trot through the corner. You can judge the quality much better, if the foals step nicely with the hind legs under the centre of gravity and move out of the shoulder exhibiting relaxed first steps.\u201d<\/p>\n Jonny Hilberath: “That is what ultimately counts in the arena. The rider promotes and optimizes through training the basic pre-disposition of a horse. Hence the basic quality has to be right. Everything that has been ‘created\u2019 will eventually catch up with the rider.\u201d<\/p>\n Ulrich Hahne: “We want to see the natural suppleness in the presentation. In the early years, the trot is often in the foreground. But the canter has a much higher importance\u00a0in the Grand Prix than in the lower levels.”<\/p>\n Jonny Hilberath: “The foal will show its natural talent to carry itself and move in balance from the start. The trot often balances itself through going forward and this is of great significance, Later on, we look for a young horse that is able to canter on the lunge on a curved line in self carriage.\u00a0With respect to percentage points in a test, it is feasible to say that the canter is the most important gait in the Grand Prix; that\u2019s where you score the most points. All canter movements have a coefficient\u00a0of two. Foals and young horses can naturally jump a long way under their centre of gravity, carrying their front end ‘in front of them\u2019 using their neck for balancing. This later on is important for the carrying of the\u00a0body, and collection.\u201d<\/p>\n Ulrich Hahne: The next point of the guidelines is the carrying capacity. How do you recognize it?<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n Jonny Hilberath: \u201dYou can\u2019t recognize the carrying capacity of a three-year-old. He does not have the strength yet. But if a horse is constructed in such a favourable way, it can balance itself. This can give an impression, that with the rider\u2019s influence, the horse will be \u00a0capable of carrying itself. This is created. No matter how hard the rider tries, it will not work though if the horse has no natural talent. This does not mean that such a horse cannot be trained. But it will never get the quality to go right to the top, and last for a long time. Everything you have to train into the horse against its natural ability has its consequences.\u201d<\/p>\n Desperados as a young horse – canters through his whole body<\/em><\/p>\n Matthias Klatt: \u201dThe canter is very important. In it you see a certain quality for developing carrying capacity. It is a good basis to build upon, if a young horse canters well, and balances himself and uses his neck and his whole body.\u201d<\/p>\n Counter canter shows the horse can carry itself..<\/em><\/p>\n Jonny Hilberath: \u201dThis most likely shows in the counter canter. That is a core part. When you start to train counter canter with five-year-olds, you quickly find out whether it only works with \u2019full throttle\u2019 or whether the horse is able to carry itself and maintain the counter canter through a corner or on the circle line. There are horses that have a certain amount of self-confidence, which makes things much easier. It is very important that the horse can carry its topline. It depends on whether the horse takes his neck up to balance or tends to go downhill. You can already see this natural behaviour in young horses in the pasture.\u201d<\/p>\n Ulrich Hahne: Watching a young horse allows us to make certain assumptions. From a breeder\u2019s point of view, a five-year-old is no longer a very young horse. Especially in dressage horse breeding, young stallions are often used for breeding. What should the\u00a0breeder look for?<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n Jonny Hilberath: \u201dRiders know how much effort is needed to ride a horse into a correct self-carriage, when it does not offer this by nature. It becomes a problem for the continuing training. The end result of training movements that require so much physical effort are often not what you hoped for.\u201d<\/p>\n Matthias Klatt: \u201dHorses with good conformation, well-set necks and well-defined withers, strong backs and sloping croups find it easier to accept the rider\u2019s aids and achieve supplness and relaxedness.\u00a0As a breeder, you have to make sure that the foundation is really stable.\u201d<\/p>\n Ulrich Hahne: It is often said that horses that are successful at the Grand Prix-level are more difficult at the beginning of their training.\u00a0What does the term \u2019suitably sensitive\u2019 mean?<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n Matthias Klatt: \u201dHorses should have a certain sensitivity for the recreational rider as well as for the Grand Prix-rider. The temperament must always be pleasant, and the horse must be willing to perform and accept a rider. It can be a bit more difficult at times, but it must not want to get rid of the rider.\u201d<\/p>\n Jonny Hilberath: \u201dIntelligence in horses can be tricky. It is defined and can be interpreted very differently. Attentiveness is very important. There are horses that are sensitive or sometimes hot, but they keep a responsiveness to the rider. That is the most important thing. Horses that are very talented in terms of gaits, but can become unresponsive to the aids, and become unmanageable, are difficult. In my experience these horses remain difficult. A lot of effort and work can improve the situation, but it takes a lot of time. There are currently many horses in the German sport that are ‘hot\u2019 and simply very awake. But they keep responsiveness to the rider. That is the big difference. The question is always whether the horses get \u2019hot\u2019 under stress or whether they have a lot of energy and joy of movement. Energy and the joy of movement are\u00a0very positive and should be rated highly.\u201d<\/p>\n Stefan Blanken: \u201dAs a rider you are happy when the horses keep responsiveness . Horses need to have the energy to do the piaffe and passage later on.\u201d<\/p>\n Jonny Hilberath: \u201dThe amateur horse should also be sensitive, because a sensitive horse with a certain calmness is much easier to ride even for a not-so-experienced rider. That goes both ways. There are not only ‘over-motorized\u2019, complicated and jumpy horses, but also well-behaved and lethargic ones where riding is not so much fun anymore.\u201d<\/p>\n Anja Rietbrock: “Every rider would rather have a rideable horse with a good character, with which he can make more out of less movement through education and training, than a very difficult horse, with which you can hardly get around the arena. That doesn\u2019t help anyone.\u00a0Of course, you need spirit and mind to be able to compete at the very top. Rideability is a huge issue.\u201d<\/p>\n Jonny Hilberath: “Many horses have a supposedly good and promising start. After a while it becomes clear that some horses are sensitive, but don\u2019t learn anything, and others change and learn. They learn to trust and listen to their riders. Riding is also about interacting, about communication. Horses that don\u2019t listen to their riders because of an extreme flight instinct and strong insecurity issues, are a big challenge.\u201d<\/p>\n Ulrich Hahne: These temperamental characteristics are difficult to read from breeding values. At this point, breeders have to analyze their mare line, look at what has become of the horses that presented themselves well as foals. A lot can be seen just by observing the daily behaviour.”<\/p>\n Matthias Klatt: “You have to know your breeding exactly. Which combinations fit well, which horses have developed a good attitude towards humans.\u201d<\/p>\n Successful Hanoverian breeder, Hans-Heinrich Br\u00fcning – you have to know your mares…<\/em><\/p>\n Jonny Hilberath: “It\u2019s the job of breeders to not just breed, but try to find the right stallion for a mare very specifically, and with a lot of thought. The stallions also have to be observed. Admittedly this is difficult with young stallions, especially with three-year-olds after\u00a0licensing. You can read up, or see a lot of things already, but it is only when the stallions are competing that you can tell if a horse\u00a0is a “performer\u2019, if he has presence. Watching horses in the warm-up ring is also very important. Often the relation to the sport is a problem for the breeder. At breaking-in or at the mare test, the temperament is not weighted well enough. When selecting a line, a much more targeted approach must be taken. When we talk about sport, the temperament is half the battle.\u201d<\/p>\n Stefan Blanken: “Breeders simply have to know their mare line. If a sire and grandsire have already been used with this line, you know how to select, since you know what might be a good fit.\u201d<\/p>\n Ulrich Hahne: “Someone who is new to breeding has a lot of work ahead of him. He has to do research and have conversations to get a certain feeling for the line.”<\/p>\n Times, and demands, have changed, F\u00fcrstenball,, and Grande who died in 1989<\/em><\/p>\n F\u00fcrstenball is one of three stallions who top the 2022 Hanoverian dressage stallions topliste on a value of 141(the other two are Benecio and Don Frederic), but he is way in the lead on the topliste for type, with a value of 165 – the next highest is For Romance I with a value of 151<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n Stefan Blanken: “The breeding community has changed a lot. Farm-based breeding has become less and less. Many start breeding, when the mare, they have ridden, gets older. For them it is difficult to find the right stallion. They know their own mare very well, but they don\u2019t know, what she will pass on to her offspring.\u201d<\/p>\n Ulrich Hahne: Why is the soundness of the limbs – the stability of the foundation so important?<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n Jonny Hilberath: “The foundation, i.e. the front and the hind legs, carries the horse\u2019s body. A good position and the appropriate angulation are almost vital. You need a certain longevity. Horses don\u2019t go Grand Prix until they are ten years old and need a lot of training. Then they compete at the top level for eight or nine years. That is a real challenge. Good dispositions are important as well as good hooves, bones, tendons and joints.\u201d<\/p>\n Ulrich Hahne: Show jumping has changed a lot in the past 30 years, dressage as such has not…<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n Jonny Hilberath: “Today the competition regulates the demand. In the past five years, an unbelievable number of high-quality horses have entered the sport. Today, there are hardly any horses in the Grand Prix that don\u2019t do a good piaffe and passage. Ten years ago it was quite different, you were still at the top if these exercises were ‘only OK\u2019. Today, nothing is possible with just being ‘OK\u2019. The quality of the horses has much increased, the training is more sophisticated. The whole management of the horses has been optimized. In this respect, the Grand Prix has changed. Every screw is being turned.”<\/p>\n “A lot of work is being done on the technique. This in turn has to do with rideability; horses also have to participate. There are a lot of Hannoveraner horses successfully competing. As far as the young horses are concerned, we have to think about the length of the spine and the ratio of the height of the hock to the height of the carpal joint. Long fetlocks, which are very vulnerable, bother me a lot. Horses that carry themselves well in canter often have a shorter cannon bone, which is no longer in the hind leg than in the foreleg. This uphill build is natural and crucial. If the hock joint is much higher than the carpal joint, this forms a downhill mountain line. Such a hind leg can no longer carry the horse. A carrying hind leg must come down and under the horse. It does not just lift off the ground.\u201d<\/p>\n Matthias Klatt: \u201dYou see long fetlocks more and more often. These horses are quite comfortable to sit to, but the durability of the fetlock ligaments is compromised.\u201d<\/p>\n![\"\"](\"https:\/\/www.horsemagazine.com\/thm\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/08\/WencksternPiaffePir.jpg\")
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